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    October 20, 2012
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actual scientific issue. but also i just wanted to state again that all of the areas that were these new designated areas of possible issues that they're going to investigate further through paperwork or whatever they need to do, they've all been scanned and there's been nothing above background. and i just wanted to give them a little bit of perspective because one speaker mentioned that. as i mentioned, there is radiation everywhere all the time every day. everybody is exposed to it. you have it in your own body. and the average annual exposure for an individual is 6 20 milligram per year. this is an average. so, people who live in the sierra, whether it's higher soils that have a higher natural background level, they have maybe a higher end of that average.
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and people who get a lot of medical procedures with x-rays would have higher averages. but that average is you get a lot of it from medical exposures. there's radon in air you get it from, the soil, water, consumer project cosmic rays and industrial and occupational exposure. so, every human being in the u.s. has about that average on -- they have done studies and measured. in addition to that, this regulatory limit that i mentioned is that up to 100 milligram per year is the allowed amount that the regulators set from radiation sources. and, so, by comparison, i just want to mention that the background scans -- and it's in these reports that were sent to the residents and given to you today -- the measurements they're taking and measuring are .01 milligram per hour. and if you do the whole
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calculation in per year and all that, it's way less, way less than what we're seeing. so, that's why we can say with confidence that all these areas that have been scanned are way less than anything of concern. >> and i appreciate that. you know, i am not an expert in this, and certainly radiation. and i think that everything you said makes a lot of sense. but where i disagree with you is on your point about the impact of additional testing. i actually see it differently. i actually think that the lack of trust is not going to go away, and i actually think it will only intensify. and i think that taking that extra step, even if it's a pain, even if it is expensive, it is something that if i live there that i would like to see
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my government do. and, so -- (applause) >> it's not to take anything away from what you said. i respect your judgment and your professional judgment on this. but i think that as a matter of policy for the city, i would rather err on the side of doing more than less. and, again, i just think that from my perspective, it's what i would want for my family. and, so, i don't know if that's possible, but i would simply urge the city to do that. i think it's money well spent. (applause) >> ms. brownell, if i have family and i lived on the island, obviously what i heard, if i was to make a request to
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dph or to i guess the appropriate agencies, would we be able to do additional assessments by request? is that something we can figure out a way to figure out a system for? >> we can certainly explore that idea. again, the california department of public health is the agency -- >> they're the ones that do that? >> -- that did those studies and we can talk to them about that concept. >> okay. i think that as much as we can, because -- i think we have to understand the concerns are reasonable. that regardless of what we say, regardless of what our regulatory is saying, when you have children, when you yourself are living on the island, you're going to continue to have concerns regardless of what is being said. if there is a way we can figure out if additional testing can be done by request, i would like to figure that out. the second question that came out was defining what survey meant. and i know you went over this briefly in your presentation, but could you go into a little
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bit more detail about what is a survey and what are they surveying for? >> okay. so, again, the california department of public health goes out and it's in the reports that they did, and they take their instruments to measure the gamma walk over surveys of the areas and they take the specific instrument, ludlow model micro 19 meters and they scan the area to see if there are any concerns. so, that is what they are doing and how they are measuring the area. >> so, in the survey you are measuring for -- >> they are measuring to verify that there's no radiation concerns above the background levels. >> okay. within that -- i'm sorry, again, i'm not an expert either. but one of the members of the public had talked about gamma versus other types of radiation. are we only surveying for certain types or all types?
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>> my understanding is they're surveying for gamma. that is the concern because it is the most -- highest penetrating. you can see it from a long distance. it can travel through soil and all of that. >> thank you. this last question may be for tida. it's about the clarification requirements around digging. so, one member of the public had stated that they weren't sure of the requirement or not or if there is a recommendation [speaker not understood]. i'm not sure if that can be clarified today. >> so, as the comment was made, we did go through a series of revisions to the existing lease, including looking at the environmental disclosure section which talks about the fact that the navy is undergoing investigations on the island and providing
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information regarding the regulatory oversight. in addition, there is in the house rule section in the proposed addendum re, which we had gone through extensive community meetings and worked with the residents to address their concerns, there is a provision that would prohibit digging in backyards. and the speaker is correct that the existing lease has a language, i'm not sure exactly what it states, but recommends not digging. and out of an abundance of caution, given the information that what made available to us last year, we inserted the new language which would prohibit, expressly prohibit, i think the language is "shall not dig in backyards." >> okay. just to clarify, previously it was a recommendation, tida got the information last year and you changed that to requirement in the existing leases? >> correct. >> thank you. that actually is all of my questions today.
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i think, you know, in the best case scenario, particularly as one that is representing the residents of this island, i would. wished that the outcome could be that everyone feels safe after this hearing. and i think that that is a tall duty. given i think the circumstances of how this news came out in particular, i was very disappointed with the way and the manner with which the navy conducted itself in releasing this information because i think now, of course, we have a lot of concerns around health issues on the island, which i completely understand. moving forward, we do still have residents living on this island and i want to be able to address some of the present concerns as completely as possible. one, of course, is a hotline that tida will be running monday through friday -- it will be running all the time. so, there's one number people can use to report any concerns or to ask any questions about the ongoing clean up operations on treasure island.
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and, so, that number is the hotline that tida will run and will respond to within one business day. i know there are questions, of course, about what to do if we observe people in those areas on the weekend. and i'm hoping that the answer to that is that we can call sfpd ento ensure no one is getting in those areas and potentially putting residents at risk. the second is that we would work with dph to conduct the health assessment and the screening day on the island and meeting. director barbara garcia has committed to a meeting with the treasure island health network to talk about next steps. , and of course, to see if we can do an assessment and screening day on the island and perhaps we can contact some of our partners. i'm here in san francisco life ucf to be a volunteer that day. i will work with ms. lundgren on that. the third issue that was not the topic of this hearing is of
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course the power outages. we were hoping that by the first two weeks of november there will be something that we can present, a solution that we can present with the puc and the treasure island development authority to address the electrical outages. i just want to take a moment just to thank everyone for being here today. i know that it is not always comforting to hear, but this is the information that we have and this is the assessment the city has made on the reports that cdph and dtsc has given us along with the navy. i just want to assure residents that our office and tida will continue to be an advocate for the residents and make sure we get all the answers that we can and all the assessments and to make residents feel as safe as possible given the news and what they have heard. i think we'll end on that note. i think that most of the residents here know our office [speaker not understood] who is
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our legislative aide staff from treasure island, will continue to work through with you on many of the issues that have come forward. supervisor campos? >> i just wanted to thank you, chair kim. you know, as i said earlier, i think that the way to approach this and i think that's exactly how your office is approaching it, is to, to do for these residents what we would do for ourselves if we were in that predicament. so, i appreciate that. and i think it's important to err on the side of caution, to provide that reassurance. i think that the more information that you can provide to residents and the more you can do to address the concerns, i think the better. i also -- i think it's a great idea. i really appreciate the idea of making sure that there is a health assessment so that if there are specific concerns like the mother who came here
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with her beautiful girls, individual residents, individual families have a specific concern that our health department follows up with them and assesses the situation. so, i am confident that your office will continue to make sure that, that we as a city do right by these residents. and again, i just want to thank you. and more importantly, i want to thank the residents who are coming out and to the city staff who presented. thank you. >> thank you. i forgot one other outcome of the hearing, of course, is that puc will work to test that water as it comes out of the tap. some of the concerns of the residents. i hear the giants are ahead 5-1. thank you for being here despite the game and thanks for being here at the hearing. so, madam clerk, is there anything else on the agenda? >> chair, would you like to take an action on this item? >> oh, thank you. can we take a motion to file this item? >> so moved. >> we have a motion to file this item. that can be done without
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opposition. madam clerk, is there anything else? >> no, madam chair. >> seeing none, meeting is adjourned. [adjourned]
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>> hello, i am with the recreation and parks department. we are featuring the romantic park location in your backyard. this is your chance to find your heart in santa and cisco with someone special. -- san francisco with someone special. our first look out is here at buena vista park, a favorite with couples and dog walkers. both have a significant force. a refreshing retreat from urban life. the romantic past that meander up and down the park under pines
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and eucalyptus. hang out in this environment and you might see butterflies it, fennel, and then the lines. -- dandelions. is ada accessible. public transit is plentiful. we have conquered the steps, we have watched the dogs, and we have enjoyed a beautiful view. this is a place to take someone special on a romantic stroll and enjoyed a beautiful look out. welcome to corona heights located in the heart of this district. it offers a view of the downtown skyline, the bay bridge, and the east bay. it is one of the best kept
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secrets in the city. it is hardly ever crowded. on any given day, you will run into a few locals. , bought a 37 bus to get there without any parking worries. for legged friends can run freely. there is also a patch of grass for the small box. >> it is a great place. it is a wonderful place to have these kinds of parks. that dog owners appreciate it. >> take time to notice of the wildfires that are on the grassland and keep your head out on the lookout for hawks and other bird life. be sure to take your camera and be prepared to take a view of the city will not forget. it has a beautiful red rock formations. you could watch the sunrise over the bay.
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this is another one of our great lookouts. we are at mount davidson. 928 feet. this is the place for you to bring someone special. to not forget that dogs and enjoy all of the pathways and greenery that surrounds you. it provides a peaceful oasis of open space and great hiking trails. the spectacular view offers a perfect place to watch the sunrise or sunset with someone you love. >> it is a good place to get away from the hectic life of the city. come up here and listen to nature, i get some fresh air. that view is fantastic. >> where sturdy shoes. hikers get the feeling of being in a rain forest.
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mount davidson is also a great place to escape the noise and the bustle of the city. take the 36 bus and it will drop you at the entrance. it is quite a hike to the top but the view is worth every step. this is the place to bring that someone special. golden gate park's largest body of water is an enchanting place. is a popular spot for paddling around in boats, which can be rented. created in 1893, it was designed for these your boating -- for leisure boating. it is named for the wild strawberries that once flourished.
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there is also a waterfall, two bridges, and trails the climb to the summit, the highest point at more than four hundred feet. you can catch glimpses of the western side of the city that make this hilltop a romantic look out. for public transit, i take the n train. the lad the ad -- lake is ada accessible. watch many ducks, swans, and siegel's. -- seagulls. it is a great place to stroll and sail away. many couples come here to take a ride around a lake, going under the bridges, passing the chinese
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pavilion and the waterfall. for a quiet getaway, making for a memorable and magical experience. located on 19th avenue, this growth is the place to where you're hiking boots, bring the family and the dog because it has so much to offer you and your loved ones. it is a truly hidden gem in the city. the park is rich with eucalyptus trees. long paths allow you to meander, perfect for a dog walking in a wooded environment. >> i enjoy the history. the diversity of nature that exists in such an urban city, concrete streets, cars, we have
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this oasis of the natural environment. it reminds us of what the history was. >> there is a section for dogs and plenty of parking. transit is available on the 28 bus to get you very easily. the part is ada -- park is ada accessible. it is also a natural lake. this is your chance to stroll around the lake and let the kids run free. it also has many birds to watch. it is a place to find and appreciate what you -- a wonderful breath of fresh air. come and experience in this park and enjoy the people, picnics, and sunshine. this is a lovely place to take a stroll with your loved ones.
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in the middle of pacific heights, on top of these hills, it offers a great square, a peaceful beauty, large trees and grass and greenery. it features tables and benches, a playground, restaurants, and tennis courts. there are plenty of areas for football and picnics. it is very much a couple's park. there are many activities you can experience together. stroll on the pathways, bring your dog, or just picnic at one of the many tables and enjoy all that it has to offer together. many couples find this is a perfect park to throw down a blanket and soak up the sun. it is a majestic place that you can share with someone you chairs. lafayette park is also easily
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accessed from the 47, 49, and 90 buses. it is ada accessible. we are here at the historic palace of fine art in the marina district. originally built for the 1950's exposition, the palace is situated on san francisco's number waterfront. it is ada accessible and is reached by the 28, 30, and 91 bus lines. set against the reflecting waters of the lagoon and eucalyptus trees, the palace is one of san francisco post most -- san francisco's most romantic
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spots to relax with that special someone while listening to the water and gazing at the swans. a beautiful to view from many locations along the mattoon, an ideal place to -- all -- lagoon, an ideal place to walk with a loved one. reservations for weddings are available at sfrecpark.org. discarding contains plants referred to by william shakespeare's plays and poems. welcome to the shakespeare garden here in the famous golden gate park. located near the museum and the california academy of sciences, the garden was designed by the california spring blossom and wildfilower association.
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here is a truly enchanting and tranquil garden along a path behind a charming gate. this garden is the spot to woo your date. stroll around and appreciate its unique setting. the gorgeous brick walkway and a brick wall, the stone benches, the rustic sundial. chaired the part -- share the bard's word hundred famous verses from a shakespearean plays. this is a gem to share with someone special. pack a picnic, find a bench, and enjoy the sunshine, and let the whimsical words of william shakespeare and floats you and your loved one away. this is one of the most popular
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wedding locations and is available for reservations. take a bus and have no parking worries. shakespeares' garden is ada accessible. located at the bottom of this hill, it is a secret garden with an infinite in captivating appeal. carefully tucked away, it makes the top of our list for most intimate pyknic setting. avoid all taurus cars and hassles by taking a cable car. or the 30, 45, or 91 bus. the garden was designed by thomas church in 1957. grow old with me, the best is
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yet to be is inscribed on a sundial. it is anchored by twin white gazebos and flowers that bloom year-round. this is the place to tell someone special or the place to declare the commitment you two share. weddings and the event reservations are available for this adorable hidden gem. we know there are many other romantic parks in san francisco. we hope you have enjoyed this torre of lookouts, picnics, and strolls that are available every day. until next time, do not forget to get out and play. for more information about reserving one of these romantic locations or any other location, call 831-5500. this number is best for special
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events, weddings, picnics, and the county fair buildings. or for any athletic field, call 831-5510. you can write us at -- or walk in and say hello. and of course you can find more information moresfrecpark.org. --
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>> good afternoon. i know we have a number of people here today for our first item and thank you so much for making the time to be here. hello and welcome to our regular rules committee for thursday, october 18 [*-fplg/]. my name is jane kim and i'm joined by